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WHITE
ROSE TRANSMISSION

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ROSE TRANSMISSION
Interviewer:
Gordon Taylor
Interviewee:
Carlo
Date:
Tuesday, August 03, 1999 8:48 PM
When did you first become involved
in music?
Carlo:
I must have been an unborn, my mum always sung, but not
my kind of style I´m afraid ;-)) No to be honest
I was nine yearsold when I started to sing in a church
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What
have been some of the bands you have been involved in?
Carlo:
In Holland I started to sing in
some cover bands at school when I was sixteen, mostly
Ramones and Sex Pistols stuff because we didn´t
know more chords, later when I moved to Germany I formed
a band with some freaks who were very into "Krautrock"
music like Jane, Can,Kraftwerk and Ufo, the band was called
"Fleischextrakt" it was a mixture between Krautrock
and punk. Later I formed a band called "Invisible
reality" we were very influenced in Cocteau Twins,
Joy Division and the Names. In ´85 i started up
with "The
Convent"
How
did all of you meet?
Carlo:
I worked in a car industry factory as a man maschine and
met ourfirst keyboard player, the other members were friends
and maids I knew before who joined in.

Adrien
Borland past away on the 26th April 1999, Could you tell
me more about him, What was he like to work with, How
did he inspire you?
Carlo:
I could write a book about him with 2000 pages I guess,
Adrian has always been one of my favorite writers of all
time, as well as MarkBurgess, Jim Morrison, Ian Curtis
and Steve Kilbey. I met Adrian in ´93 when we did
a cover of Winning for a German compilation. Several bands
had to cover one of their favorite songs, the Fall and
Inspiral Carpets were also on this compilation. I phoned
Adrian to ask for permission, he agreed and asked me if
I could send him a copy of the version, I did, he phoned
me
back after he had heard it and he liked it very much.
We met in Holland and Adrian asked me if I would like
him to play some acoustic sets and support The Convent
on their tour. I was stunned as you can imagine and immidiatly
agreed. It was one of our best tours and every time Adrian
and The Convent
played Winning together. We have had a brilliant time
and became very close friends. Later I did some solo stuff
with Florian (our Keyboard player from the early Convent)
played it to Adrian and he liked it that much that he
wanted to play guitar and wrote some songs as well. The
project White Rose Transmission was born. Adrian inspired
me a lot.
What do you all do when you're not working in the band?
Carlo:
We celabrate life in all it´s
beauty ;-))) No we all have to do our jobs, David Maria
studies, Florian is working for Marshall Amplifiers and
works as a keyboard player for Wolf Maahn ( a famous german
singer songwriter) Claudia is a hair dresser and I have
my own lable Red Sun, but to finance the whole thing I`m
exporting german cars to scandinavia. (never trust car
dealers) ;-)))
What is the meaning behind the band name?
Carlo:
White Rose Transmission is a fusion between two things,
White Rose was a anti nazi student movement in the early
fourtees, they dropped anti Nazi propaganda folders in
all german universities. The main leaders were brother
and sister Scholl, both were killed by the nazi´s
in Munich. White Rose also was part of a story by Oscar
Wilde, The Nightingale and the Rose which I liked a lot.
Adrian and I were very into joy Division and it was Adrian´s
idea to put Transmission after White Rose.

What instruments do you all play and are there any particular
instrument you enjoy the most?
Carlo:
David Maria Gramse is a classical violin player and plays
very well, Florian is a classical piano player and also
very familiar into keyboards and composing songs and knows
a lot about programming and Q-base. Adrian played bass
on the first one, as well as all the guitars. Claudia
did the backing vocals and I just sing and play some guitar,
I wrote Vapour and Silver Age on the first WRT album but
Adrian played the guitar ( otherwise the studio costs
would have ruined our label ;-)))

What
creative process do you go through when composing your
music?
Carlo:
The musical part was always a sharing of ideas, a brainstorming
progress. We always had the agreement never to ignore
other one´s ideas but to come up with a better one
or leave it. There was no ego that ruled. We made a lot
of compromises and had a lot of respect for eachother.


Many
of your songs explore subjects such as elements like water,
wind,sand, and air, mixed with thoughts, emotions, desires,
and escape. Would I be correct on this assumption? What
is it that inspires you about these subjects? Are you
influence by books or movies or plays?
Carlo:
As I said before I enjoy life with all it´s beauty
as well as all the terrible things, I think that all the
songs I wrote are things that happened to me and I write
them from my point of view. There is so much out there
that inspires me, it can be a good movie, a terrible expierience,
a romantic one, everything can be a motivation to write
about. Adrian and I wrote a lot about farwells and goodbye´s
as well as about love in all it´s glory and sad
moments, about hope, faith and trust as well as dissapointment,
destruction and it´s results. Adrian was a very
happy man sometimes and the next moment it changed, we
have had a lot of fun as well as we shared a lot of negative
emotions.. The 700 Miles of Desert album was about a dry
period in your life, where it seems that you can´t
see the end of it, you walk for miles and miles and
after you finished more than the half of it you keep "Digging
for water" or you decide to go back the same way
you came from, but you might loose it and die, you have
to keep on going, don´t give up. It´s very
sad to see it from that point of view, expecially when
you think about the fact that Adrian sung "Walking
in the opposite direction" Mark found an ocean after
"digging for Water, and i keep breathing the most
out of this life and keep
walking to the end of this desert.

What
bands do enjoy listening to for pleasure?
Carlo:
The
Doors, Kraftwerk, The Chameleons, The Sound, The Waterboys,
Echo & the Bunnymen, The Church, Nick Drake, Jeff
Buckley, Talk Talk, David Sylvian, CAN, Velvet Underground,
DEUS, Joy Division, Jaques Brell, Leonard Cohen, Elvis,
Zentrifugal, Einstürtzende Neubauten, Teardrop Explodes,
Julian Cope, John Lennon and the 2000 other albums I´ve
got ;-))))

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Are you doing any side projects?
Carlo
:
I´ve done some demo´s with Bruhn (ex Sisters
of Mercie) but just for fun to do some experiments, we
have had a lot of fun but we never released it, I don´t
know why to be honest. It was very trancy, lyrical dance
stuff not dark at all and I enjoyed it a lot.

To the readers who may have not heard much of your music
how would you describe your sound?
Carlo:
here we are with the most hated question of every musician
!!! hahaha !! that´s a good one ;-)) give me a second.............well
you´ve asked me before what kind of music I enjoy
and I´ve made a list, count them together divide
them and that´s us !! ;-))))) No to be honest, With
The Convent we never tried to be dead individual, which
is not good for the media and record companies, because
you don´t come up with something fashionable, fresh
or a brand new style. We liked a lot of these bands and
were very influenced by them.
With
White rose transmission it´s quiet the same honestly,
I mean some people think it´s quiet moody, some
say very fresh and new, I don´t know really it´s
very hard to be objectiv about your own music really,
so give it a try and find out yourself. :-))) If I wouldn´t
sing in WRT it would be my favorite band of all time ;-)))

How
has the response been with White Rose Transmission?
Carlo:
absolutely great here in Germany, we are nominated for
the German record award we are album of the month in "Stereo
Play" a high fidelity magazine. We are on a Zillo
Sampler (gothic rock fanzine) we have got some brilliant
reviews. I mean we won´t sell a lot of copies but
we get used to that.
What
was the inspiration behind the songs wild rain, digging
for water, hallucination, walking the opposite direction,
breath, and the swimmer?
Carlo
:
as I said before, it´s all
about the dry period in your life, where everything seems
to go wrong. There is no middle way it´s surviving
or dying. All the lyrics are very surreal, so that the
listener can find out and interpret his own life into
it.

You
have the vocals of Claudia Uman on the album how did she
become involved with White Rose Transmission and will
she be involved with White rose transmission in the future?
Carlo:
Claudia was a fan of the Convent insince ´85 when
she was twelve years old, her older sister was listening
to our music. It was very funny, one day i met Claudia
on a party in ´94 she told me that she was singing
a lot, I asked her if she would like to do some backing
vocals on WRT she agreed I loved it and so it happened.
Whenever their will be a new album I´ll ask her
again, I think she´s great !
Mark
burgess from Chameleons play bass and sing the song Digging
for water, when did he decide become involved with White
Transmission?
Carlo:
Adrian and I asked him after we went to a concert of Mark
and Yves new band "Invincible" Mark and Adrian
only met once so it was a great experience for both.

How long did it take to produce?
Carlo:
four weeks from the writing till the finished mixes, Adrian
was a freak, he just couldn´t stop , once he started.
It was amazing how fast he could work.

What
have you got planned for the next album?
Carlo:
I´ve got a lot of material
still we didn´t use because of the fact that you
can only get 74 minutes of music on one CD ;-)) I will
write some songs myself and I would like to work with
Marty Willson Piper from the Church. I think he´s
one of the best guitar players I know and he is a brilliant
producer. I asked him about it when he was over, but it´s
always just a question of time.The Church just finished
their cover album box of birds and started to record some
demo´s for a new album, so they might go
on tour as well soon. It doesn´t really matter because
WRT has always been a project that whenever we have time
for it, we will go for it. No time pressure, no release
dates, nothing.
Where
have you toured, are you planning any up and coming tours?
carlo:
we planned to tour several gigs through europe but suddenly
this sad news came in about Adrian, Mark and I decided
to do the tour, because Adrian would have liked it to
carry on anyway, music was such a main thing in his life.
We asked Yves Altana to help us out and he came over from
Manchester to join us. We did only four acoustic shows
in Germany and they went out very well, the people enjoyed
it a lot. Mark and Yves played some "Invincible"
stuff acoustic and afterwards we did some old and new
WRT songs and some Sound covers "Hand of Love, Winning,
and Wildest Dreams" it was fantastic but sometimes
hard to deal with our emotions.
In
your future tours will you be planing on using string
instruments?
Carlo:
Oh I would love to do that yes, we will see , no plans
right now, but who knows...
What
gigs did you enjoy the most and what was the audience
response?
Carlo:
I always enjoy life gigs, thats one on the main reasons
why I´m doing this, it´s great. Whenever the
band feels great the vibe will get the audience...there´s
no escape for that :-))))))
What
gigs did you not enjoy?
Carlo:
Cancelled gigs.......but there are none in my history
;-))))
Is
there anything special incorporated within your performances?
Carlo:
I´m singing naked ;-))))))) no sorry, i think that
all our gigs are very intence I´m having self conversations
and let the audience be a part of it. I´m always
very excited afterwards and mostly I´m still shaking
half an hour after the show. I love to be on stage, it´s
sometimes better than
sex ;-))))))))))) (only sometimes)
When
you have a performance what goes through your mind when
you are on that stage. What is it that you feel? What
sort of emotions do you go through when the eyes of the
audience are on you?
Carlo:
To much to mention really, I mean
as I said I´m having a self conversation and everything
that I wrote about comes back into your mind when you
sing about it. Mostly I can´t see the audience because
the spot light blinds me anyway. :-))))

What
are your future plans?
Carlo:
ah, ah , ah, ah staying alive, staying alive ;-))) no
seriously I don´t know what this future brings,
I will carry on writing, I´m working on a new album
with The Convent and hope that we will be able to record
in November.
Carlo
when did you start red sun records and what are the philosophies
behind red sun records how can people get in contact with
red sun records. What sort artist do you look for, and
what are the future plans for red sun records?
Carlo:
I started in 89 with my booking agency called red sun
agency, and two years ago I started with the record lable.
Our philosophy is to keep this kind of music alive, make
it available , keep the prices as low as possible, so
that everyone is able to affort it. And pay the people
who deserve to get some money for what they are producing.
All kind of bands can connect us , but we can´t
make any promises because
we are not that big to throw the big money at them. We
want to help as much as we can.
Is
there anything you would like to say to the readers out
there?
Carlo: Keep
the spirit going !! Inhale and don´t choke !! ;-)))))
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